The AlmightyBeefy has written this polite comment:
"...things she's done in her past for the better of anyone and everything around her."
Ah yes, I forgot. Teaching people the many uses of swear words is indeed a great service.
"She worked her hind-end off and paid monetarily and in ways that you would never even know about to create this game just for people to play."
When we assume things like that Branik calls us an ass. I feel comfortable thinking that you're probably not. However, I KNOW how hard it is to code all of that and how much these things cost.
"The customer is always right" was a business mentality that was brought about because, in the not too distant past, businesses were ALL run how Bran runs hers. Monopoly. Branik has a monopoly on that particular type of horse sim and therefore can get away with a lot. When that happens you get a superiority and invincibility complex. Being humble used to be a virtue, but Branik won't hesitate before telling you how much of a genius and a gift from God she is.
"throw a temper tantrum in the emergency room because the headache that they've had for the past four days without even trying Aleve"
Jumping to conclusions again... how about the person who had a headache for three days, didn't try Aleve because it never works for them, and was told they had to flu. Then, a real doctor comes by and they have menengitis. Hmmm? Are they a PMSing bitch? Its called empathy. You step back and think what could have made this person upset.
"The customer service representative has no right to ask you to calm down or hang up on you when you get completely belligerent and cuss at them over the phone?"
As far as I'm concerned, the customer service representative has every right to hang up. BUT! The case we're talking about here is the customer service representative who calls you a bitch because you forgot to make sure something was plugged in. Sure, it was a mistake, but it doesn't warrant being called names. I've worked where you could kick a customer out for poor behavior, but you could NEVER stoop to their level.
"Treat others as you wish to be treated." - Branik said this once. We treated her exactly as she treated us and she had a breakdown. Explain that one. She's the one who can't take the crap back that she throws. She wants to tell people what to do, but not lead by example.
My username is exactly what it was in the game. Other people might be afraid of being harassed, which is legitimate. Branik and some others don't exactly hesitate before lynching people.
"you're obviously lacking in your mental capacity for learning and should have never bitched about E-R in the first place. Not Bran's fault your IQ is so low that chimps are more intelligent than you."
I bolded this statement because it is interesting. This is the type of behavior I'm talking about. Here you are, telling complete strangers that they are mentally retarded. Does that make you feel good about yourself? What are you trying to accomplish, other than inciting anger? You're sounding like a Branik Youth.
"change a grown ass woman"
We're not trying to change anyone? I don't understand why everyone is assuming we're attempting to change Bran. We're expressing our feelings. If you don't agree with us there IS a place for you. It's called Branik's blog.
"You are obviously really young, inexperienced about the world, and do have a lot of growing to do. Don't even bring up the fact of my age...I was raised completely different than you as I can tell from each and everyone one of your posts."
Its funny how you're calling us young, yet we're pretty much all older than you. You sound like your mimicking Branik now. Apparently we were raised to think that etiquette was the appropriate thing to consider using around strangers.
"Honestly, if you don't like something or someplace, just leave."
I did leave? In defense of other people - if you want to watch cable TV and there's only one cable TV company that provides the channel you want, you're going to go with them. People still play Branik's game because it has something they want, but if something else comes with that same thing they WILL leave.
"One other good point...you people have shown falsehoods against Branik and her game. I smell an easy lawsuit...and I bet mommy and daddy wouldn't like that, now would they? Court costs are really, really expensive!"
Sorry, everything I said is what I believe to be true. As far as law is concerned I'm fine. I've checked and I'm allowed to have an opinion. Freedom of Speech. People might remember it as a right that was guaranteed to US citizens. (Note that Freedom of Speech doesn't include swear words)
It is so sad that everyone who posts for Branik here sounds just like her. They use similar terminology and phrases. I sense a variation on Stockholm Syndrome.
Finally: "Oh yes, one point I forgot to mention...Bran's blog requires a log-in to read any of the material on it. So, the question is, where are the parents when that little 12, 13, or 14 year old signs up for it?"
That's a new occurance. What about all those 13 year olds that signed up for it BEFORE she changed that aspect? Nice of you to bring up a recent change an expect that to nullify everything she has done in the past.
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You know, I read this and think of Fugly's blog. But Fugly's blog is much more entertaining because she has a point to make. Although she rants about the same thing, she uses different examples every time, much unlike you. Everything is the same. It really is becoming quite a bore.
And yet you keep bothering to read it...
What does that say about you?
Fo' rizzle. There's not that much to complain about with ER. I'm running out of topics. I'll see if I can find something new, just for you!
Am I the only person who believes that having a blog centered on why something sucks is at least borderline obsessive behavior?
You obviously care a lot about this if you have made a whole blog detailing your reasons. Which begs - what is your motive?
Do you just want Branik to notice you? Do you feel your opinion is more valuable? Do you feel the need to play the "enlightened one", revealing the monster that you believe she is? Does it make you feel important and valued, to be the elder that shows the villagers the error of their ways?
Curious, how much simple actions on the Internet can reveal so much about people. Obviously, someone has some underlying self-esteem issues. Perhaps you envy Branik and desire to bring her down to your level?
Who said anything about reading it?
I watch to see if anyone replies to my comments, otherwise I only read it if it comes up during chat.
I have a bit of a question, why is it that you have decided to tear down The AlmightyBeefy , but yet no response to me.
"Ah yes, I forgot. Teaching people the many uses of swear words is indeed a great service."
Hmmm I think I saw way more swear words in the Maddy issue then anything that I have seen in Bran's blog. Most of that came from a woman claiming to be her mother and another claiming to be her sister. The logs have been gone through and posted for all to see, so again you have been proven wrong. Admin tickets and Bran's blog are two different things.
You speak of a monopoly but yet compare many other games to Equine Ranch. It can not be a monopoly if there is more than one. You yourself must have enjoyed the ideas that were presented forth because you yourself are thinking of "borrowing " them without returning any credit, except for bashing of Branik. Question, is this more for an advertisement of your new up and coming game. Maybe this is an issue of trying to "get rid of the competition". What say you others. I mean its a bit of a coincidence that we are having Branik problems so we have our own game on the make...with a testing date...be it vague, but still a testing date.
See where I used to work I would get paid for removing troublemakers, just the hint of it and out the door you go with a ban. If you were lucky and I was in a good mood it wouldn't be a lifetime ban. I myself feel that Branik gives people way to many chances, that she is "to nice". I myself would have removed you the first time you raised your head and stepped out of line. But then again I (unlike Bran) expect the worst in people at all times and I am seldom disappointed.
"Treat others as you wish to be treated." - Branik said this once. We treated her exactly as she treated us and she had a breakdown. Explain that one. She's the one who can't take the crap back that she throws. She wants to tell people what to do, but not lead by example.
Allow me to return to your previously scheduled rant
# thirdpeppermint Says:
June 8th, 2008 at 8:50 pm
I didn’t mean for that to happen. I was just trying to get my point across. :(
But if it wasn't what you meant then why did you post
# thirdpeppermint Says:
June 8th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
It wasn’t my fault the game was shut down? The game owner thinks its okay to flip out over what one or two people said to her.
and again
# thirdpeppermint Says:
June 8th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Sorry, I meant the commons closed. My mistake. I guess that does make me the first.
If she can’t take it she shouldn’t deal it.
I still don’t feel responsible.
But right from the top you said that you didn't mean for that to happen, and as soon as it was noticed that it wasn't looking so good for you it changed. You suddenly don't feel responsible for anything although it has been you flaming for some time now.
Again another question comes to mind...why flame just Branik? I mean no disrespect to Jim but he answers tickets and in fact caught one flaming Bran for an answer that he himself answered...but yet it is Bran that you jump up and down screaming about. I am just trying to understand why it is that you have singled out the most seen of the two owners? Why is it that you attack just one...and again there is some that attacked and have still not come forward to show us who they are. I mean if they are right, why hide?
Aleks said...
Fo' rizzle. There's not that much to complain about with ER. I'm running out of topics. I'll see if I can find something new, just for you!
Okay so why again is there a Anti ER blog? Why is it...if you are right...do you have to "go looking" for something to complain about? I just don't understand, if Equine Ranch is as bad as you have posted it is, then stuff should be just screaming violation to your delicate emotions. Or maybe you have run out of things to vent about, maybe your "minions" are out numbered because you are wrong.
I bolded this statement because it is interesting. This is the type of behavior I'm talking about. Here you are, telling complete strangers that they are mentally retarded. Does that make you feel good about yourself? What are you trying to accomplish, other than inciting anger? You're sounding like a Branik Youth.
I bolded this statement because it too interests me and is the behavior that I am talking about. You are calling complete strangers "minions" and "groupies". You question our intelligence because we happen to disagree with what it is that you see. You call us names and yet have probably never spoken to me. I do take offense to being called a "groupie" and a "minion". I also am a bit insulted how it is that you insinuate that I am but a teenaged girl who wants to be part of the "in crowd". You don't know me, but you speak of me as you do.
We're not trying to change anyone? I don't understand why everyone is assuming we're attempting to change Bran. We're expressing our feelings. If you don't agree with us there IS a place for you. It's called Branik's blog.
But you have stated many times in B's blog that if she can dish it out why can she not take it. Again I don't see the difference between what you accuse Branik of doing and what you are doing right now. We are, in your terms, "dishing it out" but you are not dealing with it well, and it would show.
Its funny how you're calling us young, yet we're pretty much all older than you. You sound like your mimicking Branik now. Apparently we were raised to think that etiquette was the appropriate thing to consider using around strangers.
What has age got to do with it. But you have not used etiquette, you went into someone else house and got into a fight with them. You didn't have to pay to play, you didn't have to stay...if you didn't like what was going on you could have left. You don't walk into someones living room and tell them their wall paper sucks and that the couch is in the wrong place. Okay maybe you might, but I do not.
It is so sad that everyone who posts for Branik here sounds just like her. They use similar terminology and phrases. I sense a variation on Stockholm Syndrome.
Again I am insulted...
From Wiki
"Stockholm syndrome is a psychological response sometimes seen in an abducted hostage, in which the hostage shows signs of loyalty to the hostage-taker, regardless of the danger (or at least risk) in which the hostage has been placed."
So now I am not a grown woman with four children, a full time job, returned to College for a degree in Educational Assistant and a volunteer for many community activities; but in fact a kidnap victim, with no mind of my own. How is it that you know this, I did not realize that I had failed a Psychology test and is now labeled a victim.
Again from Wiki
It should be taken into account that according to Namnyak e.a. (2008) the Stockholm Syndromis "is not a recognized Medical Subject Heading (MeSH), that most sources of information for widely publicized cases were of varying reliability in terms of the events that lead to the diagnosis of Stockholm syndrome; the authors had no access to primary sources and identiļ¬cation of a pattern of features exhibited in Stockholm syndrome may be due to reporting bias
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome
That's a new occurance. What about all those 13 year olds that signed up for it BEFORE she changed that aspect? Nice of you to bring up a recent change an expect that to nullify everything she has done in the past.
As we do have some very mature kids playing in Equine Ranch, the game itself was not created for that age. That is why you need to have parental permission to be in chat, which is also why you need parental permission to be within the game, yes I understand that many "young children" do not understand the parental permission and they too get upset when they are asked nicely to leave chat. Equine Ranch was not created to be a babysitter, it was created to test your mind and allow you to learn genetics without the cost of actually having a horse. Age... why does everyone think that this is all about age. Age doesn't mean maturity.
Again I have issued questions and yet have not received answers on my first set, you in fact chose to attack Allmightybeefy when she was in fact agreeing with me.
You may want to take a closer look at what it is that you are really attacking, I do not find that it is the game itself that you disagree with, but in fact with Branik. Maybe a change of title is in order. I also believe that its not just one that you have issues with, but as the other Co-Owner is not as visible as Bran so you have taken the easier of the two to target.
It is kind of cowardly that you have gone after the nicer of the Co Owners. If impressing your groupies is what you are about then I would think a change of targets is in order. Good Luck with that. I do hold Jim in the utmost respect and that is because he doesn't deal well with fools.
I was having connection issues, I wouldn't want anyone to take it that I was attempting to change anything I said, it posted twice so I deleted it.
We wouldn't want to "read" anything into a missing comment made by myself.
I look at this ridiculous blog and I sit here and say wow this person has no life. You talk down about Bran so much, yet you start a blog the day after she opens hers? Then I glance at the posts and you know what, you quote things and you write your (worthless) opinions on different things. To me it sounds like someone is jealous of Bran. I'm sure others agree that you are nothing more than a copy cat that is caught up in your own little world. You think you are just oh so cool. When you go to a restaurant and you hear someone next to you order food and when it comes out wrong, they pitch a fit and get mad at the waitress because their food isn't right? You are that selfish little brat.
I thought that maybe a return to the original posts was in order. We would not want a flaming war to ensue so I figured I would repost my comments that with which Allmightybeefy agreed that started this thread to begin with.
Demonmare said...
"Lol and looking down at Demonare's post.. That is too funny. She is saying how, "they feel vindicated in their childish rants. See what you need to picture is some two year old and there you have it." LOL I don't know how she can sit there and post that and not take a look at her beloved Branik. If anyone is posting childish rants then it's Branik. We need only to look through her blog for proof of this."
Actually I can sit here. You think you started something new...nope honey you just jumped a bandwagon and you yourself have become something of what you accuse Branik of being. I am seeing deleted posts and a teenaged clique forming here. Something that you have accused me of being. Which by the way I haven't been a teenager for a long time, but yet know a fair amount of them. This little gaggle is now like the group of girls hiding in the corner talking behind their hands because they can not stand toe to toe to a person that they have decided to Bully.
But you have a few facts wrong though...huge ones...
Fideaux said...
think they feel special that they are "in" with her. That mean girl mentality. But the majority of them seem well aware that you dont want to piss her off. They dont disagree with her, the same five or six of them constantly jump to reassure her. When the grade colt problem occurred there were at least 10 posts begging people to please not make Bran angry. Please Tiptoe around so you dont set off the bomb then we will all be punished.
If you were ever a true friend then you would see what I was doing. Those of us that have been with the game and know Bran knows that she takes these things to heart as she makes sure that everything runs smoothly. It is not "set off the bomb" it is "Stop harping on something we already know about" Every paying customer was messaged on all ranches at what had happened. She did not have to do that, it wasn't automated folks, that was hand done I believe. I don't think I am special so please do not put words into my mouth.
I actually do not do confrontation well and am not one that wants to be the "mean girl" but I do stand up for myself and do not let people treat me like crap. I am really getting a bit tired of being called a groupie. I would like to know it is that you feel that you must call me names. What have I done to you? Oh I am sorry I defended a friend and stood up for something that I thought was right. So by your comments you are doing exactly what is it that you accuse Branik of doing.
By the way its D e m o n m a r e, you forgot a m.
Again another point...
quarterhorses31 said...
The sad thing is I think that several of her "groupies" are nice people, have always been nice to me in-game. It's really Bran that is the problem.
How is it just Bran when we are her "groupies" as you have called us over and over. How we just want to be Mean Girls and are all...
Fideaux said...
I just have to comment on what you said reference ages Chewie... I get the feeling that most of Brans group are teenage girls. They admire Bran for being outspoken, are easily manipulated by her victim speak (which she is great at), love the game, and last but not least feel special and important by being in the inner circle... what does surprise me is the adults who fall for this stuff and act the same way. Really pretty odd that they havent caught on by now.
But I am not a teenaged girl. I am not sure if personally I have gone to toe to toe with any that are here, but I have dealt with many over the years and have tried to be as fair as I could be. But you have lumped into the groupie list. See thats the problem with over generalizing you get a whole lot of people in that list that you may not have thought of.
But it has also been stated that I must be a misguided adult. No I am of the old school of thinking where one works for what they get and do not expect handed to me as this society is teaching. So I guess I am a misguided adult who holds down a full time job, trains horses, volunteers for numerous community things, who put myself through college and university while being a single mother of two and working full time; just because I am a Branik "groupie".
I call them as I see them...
From "Positive Child Guidance Fifth Edition; Miller Ferris Darla;Thomson Delmar Learning" page 377
"Children who want control but fail to get their way with others may react by pouting, stubbornly refusing to participate, or "causing a scene." The toddle who wants (but does not get) ice cream for dinner, for example, may push his plate off the high-chair tray, kick his feet, scream, shake his head and generally refuse to have anything to do with roast beef and carrots. Parents and early educators do no favor either by giving in to the toddler (and thus encouraging her controlling behavior) or by forcing nutritious food on her against her will. They can , however, avoid a power struggle by simply removing the toddler from the high-chair and allowing her to express her anger."
In other words folks you were removed from the high chair and now I see you are expressing your anger. I have read somewhere in this blog about Bran not coming to post here...why would she, it is you that are pouting.
"Postive Child Guidance Fifth Edition; Miller Ferris Darla;Thomson Delmar Learning" page 378
"Some children, when failing to gain control by other means, resort to bullying or rebelling. They gain control over smaller children by overwhelming them." "A child, consequently, might be tempted to control adults by being so rebellious, so out of control, that adults feel totally helpless."
Three years that I know of for sure of dealing with "children" that want things there way and "be dammed" what the world thinks. Three years of death threats because they were caught cheating, three years of "moms" calling Branik names because there perfect little janey or johny could never have broken Bran's horrid rules. And three years of "I didn't know that" when it has been stated more than once in fifteen different places, have lead to Bran's personal blog, which has nothing to do with the game other than to let off steam of the above reasons. It is you that have taken it personally folks and in doing so you have attacked innocent people.
A little of the "pot calling the kettle black" going on here I think. I don't expect positive comments from this as this is not what this blog is about...but this is my words. If you want to take my Name in vain then expect a response as well as documented reasoning behind my words. If you would like to discuss it with me further than by all means you know where to find me.
By the way in my personal place I too swear when frustrated. I too will call one names when they get too aggressive with me and start to infringe upon my space...you guys forget "the customer is not always right...Microsoft Vista is a true testament to that...but you can't get a new computer without it." You have entered Bran's living room by invitation and you are like the guest with no cooth and no manners. You are the guest that slops stuff on the floor, talks to loud and is in all other guests faces. This game is something to pay for, but that doesn't make you any better than any of the free players. You didn't have to pay to be in Bran's living room playing on her game, you could have stayed free. You seem to think that because you paid for it then you are entitled to something. I payed over 1000$ for a working computer and its operating system sucks...you think Microsoft cares...nope they just keep right on spitting out the buggy operating system and care less what their customers think. And as for the free accounts, I don't know of to many games that don't make you pay to play.
So prove me right and bash me...prove me right and delete me...I was brave enough to come in here as I am, I answered the call as you called me in. Why don't you post as you are known by the rest of us. Why hide if you are so dissatisfied with the service that you are receiving and the treatment that you are suffering. Why hide if you are right?
June 17, 2008 6:19 PM
And I feel that maybe Allmightybeefy's total response needs to be added. This is so that we do not have a confusion to what has been said.
patti1 said...
I completely agree with Demonmare. Every single thing she has said points at the validity of anything Bran does.
You say that Bran's "groupies" are all teenagers? And "we always stick up for her?"
You, my dear little children, are wrong. I can't even begin to tell you how many times me and Bran have butted heads, but I still respect her...I respect her immensely - as a game owner and for the things she's done in her past for the better of anyone and everything around her.
She has EVERY RIGHT to become angry with all of you. Equine-Ranch/SomeHorseGame, that is her brainchild. She worked her hind-end off and paid monetarily and in ways that you would never even know about to create this game just for people to play.
"The customer is always right?" Oh, yeah, sure. So the customer is always right...the customer has every right to hit you in the face, spit on you, throw a temper tantrum in the emergency room because the headache that they've had for the past four days without even trying Aleve, and you're not rushing to get them back in a room? But in your mind, the customer is always right.
The customer service representative has no right to ask you to calm down or hang up on you when you get completely belligerent and cuss at them over the phone?
The person making your sandwich has no right to tell you to get out of the store when you start acting a fool?
The old adage comes to mind - "Treat others as you wish to be treated."
Now, about Bran's "groupies" being teens? Well hell, I'm 19, but I have a full time job and support myself and use E-R as a release from work and to learn about things around me.
My thing is, here I stand, unafraid of you children, using my actual screen name that I use on E-R. Yet you hide behind fake disguises...why? Are you afraid? That is the only conclusion I could come to.
Here's a great website you'll get an excellent kick out of! And sorry, it won't be a direct link for you to click...because if you can't figure out how to copy and paste, you're obviously lacking in your mental capacity for learning and should have never bitched about E-R in the first place. Not Bran's fault your IQ is so low that chimps are more intelligent than you.
http://notalwaysright.com/
Since you seem to think, regardless of what you say, that this blog is going to change a grown ass woman (amazingly enough, it won't - people change when they want, and Bran is fine how she is..."individuality")...maybe you young brats should open your eyes and see just how things really are. You are obviously really young, inexperienced about the world, and do have a lot of growing to do. Don't even bring up the fact of my age...I was raised completely different than you as I can tell from each and everyone one of your posts. (Ahh, I'm using the "grouping" technique. Just like you use in referral. I know I'm not right 100%, but I bet 75% of "every one of your posts" meet my requirements.) =)
Honestly, if you don't like something or someplace, just leave. You stir up a lot of..."crap"...you can't handle - as is completely obvious.
I don't even know how your parents put up with you little brats.
One other good point...you people have shown falsehoods against Branik and her game. I smell an easy lawsuit...and I bet mommy and daddy wouldn't like that, now would they? Court costs are really, really expensive!
-TheAlmightyBeefy
June 18, 2008 8:43 PM
Ok. *cracks fingers.*
By the way, ladybird = me. I at least TRIED to point out my concerns without bashing. Hell, half the time I was standing up for and complimenting Bran.
Rhinestone first!
“Am I the only person who believes that having a blog centered on why something sucks is at least borderline obsessive behavior?
You obviously care a lot about this if you have made a whole blog detailing your reasons. Which begs - what is your motive?
Do you just want Branik to notice you? Do you feel your opinion is more valuable? Do you feel the need to play the "enlightened one", revealing the monster that you believe she is? Does it make you feel important and valued, to be the elder that shows the villagers the error of their ways?
Curious, how much simple actions on the Internet can reveal so much about people. Obviously, someone has some underlying self-esteem issues. Perhaps you envy Branik and desire to bring her down to your level?”
Do you spend a whole lot of time reading blogs? I don’t think so. That’s not an attack by the way, just wanted to point out that there are blogs bashing just about EVERY SINGLE THING, and most are far more aggressive than this one. Read some political blogs sometime. Its legal, and it’s a way to get out aggression without being face to face to someone and decking them in the eye.
Demonmare, I am going to have to break yours down bit by bit, so this may take awhile. But good lord you are tenacious! I always admire a formidable opponent. I am not going to answer the parts directed towards third peppermint…because I am not her. And my mind reading classes aren’t over yet.
“You speak of a monopoly but yet compare many other games to Equine Ranch. It can not be a monopoly if there is more than one.”
I think what she was referring to was a monopoly on halfway decent, realistic games worth playing.
“I myself would have removed you the first time you raised your head and stepped out of line.”
Raise your head and stepped out of line? I can’t even begin to tell you how many ways that offends me. I am an adult, and I reserve the right to raise my head whenever I want. I am not a dog, and I don’t plan on rolling around on my back in submission any time soon.
“I mean if they are right, why hide?”
Uh, in what reality does right = safe? Have you taken a look at the justice system these days? Just because we might be right doesn’t mean we wont be ripped to bits just the same.
“maybe your "minions" are out numbered because you are wrong.”
What do numbers have to do with being right or wrong? You are comparing apples to oranges. We could outnumber you and be wrong, or we could be outnumbered by you and be right, or any combination. No correlation there.
I actually think that your post is very well written, even if I don’t agree with it, and third peppermint is going to have to answer the questions directed towards her.
mooimeanonk,
“I look at this ridiculous blog and I sit here and say wow this person has no life. You talk down about Bran so much, yet you start a blog the day after she opens hers? Then I glance at the posts and you know what, you quote things and you write your (worthless) opinions on different things. To me it sounds like someone is jealous of Bran. I'm sure others agree that you are nothing more than a copy cat that is caught up in your own little world. You think you are just oh so cool. When you go to a restaurant and you hear someone next to you order food and when it comes out wrong, they pitch a fit and get mad at the waitress because their food isn't right? You are that selfish little brat.”
That is your opinion, your entitled to it and I respect it, but it’s a bit tired. We have already been called brats by the queen bee herself, so your post is a bit behind in the insult category.
To me, it sounds like someone is mad and is trying very hard to get us mad. Not working, dear, I’ve been called worse.
Back to demonmare. Thank you for reposting your comments, I would hate to have messed something up finding it again. I am not always at my best at 4am.
“Actually I can sit here. You think you started something new...nope honey you just jumped a bandwagon and you yourself have become something of what you accuse Branik of being. I am seeing deleted posts and a teenaged clique forming here. Something that you have accused me of being. Which by the way I haven't been a teenager for a long time, but yet know a fair amount of them. This little gaggle is now like the group of girls hiding in the corner talking behind their hands because they can not stand toe to toe to a person that they have decided to Bully.”
Yes, we are a group of people. No, we are not hiding in the corner. Bran knows about us, but we don’t make the blog private. She is more than welcome to come read and post, as is everyone else. We are simply a group of people who had an opinion and decided to stop causing massive flame wars on your turf, so that you can talk about YOUR issues over there, and started our own blog.
“But I am not a teenaged girl. I am not sure if personally I have gone to toe to toe with any that are here, but I have dealt with many over the years and have tried to be as fair as I could be. But you have lumped into the groupie list. See thats the problem with over generalizing you get a whole lot of people in that list that you may not have thought of.”
I, personally, never thought you were a teenager. Most teenagers today can’t type to save their lives.
“But it has also been stated that I must be a misguided adult. No I am of the old school of thinking where one works for what they get and do not expect handed to me as this society is teaching.”
Nothing wrong with that either. We just have a difference opinion. I’m sure we disagree on a lot of things.
“In other words folks you were removed from the high chair and now I see you are expressing your anger. I have read somewhere in this blog about Bran not coming to post here...why would she, it is you that are pouting.”
But isn’t pouting upset? Then why do we laugh about the whole thing? Pouting people do not laugh. And we left, we were not removed.
“Three years that I know of for sure of dealing with "children" that want things there way and "be dammed" what the world thinks. Three years of death threats because they were caught cheating, three years of "moms" calling Branik names because there perfect little janey or johny could never have broken Bran's horrid rules. And three years of "I didn't know that" when it has been stated more than once in fifteen different places, have lead to Bran's personal blog, which has nothing to do with the game other than to let off steam of the above reasons. It is you that have taken it personally folks and in doing so you have attacked innocent people.”
No. I KNOW that people are assholes. I know that it must be hell dealing with it. But what we took personally was the public reaming of people. THAT is what started this whole thing.
“By the way in my personal place I too swear when frustrated.”
That makes three of us. But they come out of my mouth, not my fingers.
By the way, Microsoft is also basically a monopoly.
“So prove me right and bash me...prove me right and delete me...I was brave enough to come in here as I am, I answered the call as you called me in. Why don't you post as you are known by the rest of us.”
No deleting for you, it’s refreshing to see an ER supported post in an adult fashion. You’re always welcome to come debate. And I never posted on ER, so nobody knows me anyway.
By the way, almightybeefy, I know for a fact that I am not a child and have no been a child for some time, and third peppermint is older than me and therefore hasn’t been a child for a long time either. And a lawsuit? For free speech? Better grab a lawyer, you need to round up every anti bush/government blog on the internet. There’s several million of them, have fun.
Ok! I tried to do this in a manner which wouldn’t offend anyone. I have my opinions, I will speak them, but I have limits to my rudeness.
Just to elaborate on the (perhaps rhetorical) question Ashley aka Ladybird posed to me in her comment:
I can understand other blogs being passionate. Politics being passionate on a blog is perfectly understandable - after all, these people are shaping what the world will be like for us tomorrow. Or a gay rights blog, I could see being passionate, as this is an issue that is hotly contested and affects others' rights to be considered, both in the de facto and de jure sense, equal citizens. These issues affect the lives of many people. Not saying, of course, that these people are all there, either. I'd have to read a specific blog to even make a inference as to whether someone might be concerning themselves over something to an abnormal degree.
Getting passionate over why an online horse sim sucks, however, I don't understand so much. Is it really worth getting that hot and bothered over? It's not really the points on this blog I'm intrigued by more than the existence of it in and of itself. I think everyone could agree that they don't have enough time in the day to do everything they'd like - is this really worth it? What could the author possibly hope to accomplish, greater than any other endeavor that might consume his/her time? Obviously this is a matter of great importance, or this blog wouldn't occupy so much space. But this seems to be a rather trivial complaint to dedicate so much effort to - well, for someone with a greater conflict, it might be.
While Cadence finds the author's rehashing of topics over and over again to be boring, I find it intriguing. We're getting a play-by-play analysis!
Read my closing statement without anything but the most literal denotation: Would a lucid person examine such miniscule details of a matter which, to the rest of us, occupies but the smallest fraction of our day?
"Would a lucid person examine such miniscule details of a matter which, to the rest of us, occupies but the smallest fraction of our day?"
A good question!
My answer is that every single person is different. I, personally, obsess over little things that most people never, ever think about. Part of that is my OCD personality, part of it is just who I am.
I don't see this as any different from a blog run by a person who obsesses over fashion, for example. That is something that I, personally, NEVER think about or read about or care about, yet some people sit and obsess over it and make a living off of it.
So a round about answer, I'm sure, but an answer nonetheless.
"Demonmare, I am going to have to break yours down bit by bit, so this may take awhile. But good lord you are tenacious! I always admire a formidable opponent. I am not going to answer the parts directed towards third peppermint…because I am not her. And my mind reading classes aren’t over yet."
Tenacious and a formidable opponent, but why is it that you have decided that I am your opponent. I do believe that you have issues with Branik, but what has this got to do with the game or in fact with me? I was stating what I thought but you immediately begin to use words of "fight night" context. But you are answering the parts towards Thirdpeppermint as well as yourself. I was called in, by name, by another player and not as yet had a response by said player. This player was in fact enforced by Thirdpeppermint making what the first person said part of her own comment. I am not one
"I think what she was referring to was a monopoly on halfway decent, realistic games worth playing."
But it has been stated over and over that this game is not decent and realistic. You imply that it is "just there" and that it's "customer service is horrid." You mention many others that are not free to play, and it seems also has its problems with those that want stuff free and want it there way. You feel the need to address you views on a hate board, that doesn't seem to have issues with the game play itself buy that of the owner.
"Raise your head and stepped out of line? I can’t even begin to tell you how many ways that offends me. I am an adult, and I reserve the right to raise my head whenever I want. I am not a dog, and I don’t plan on rolling around on my back in submission any time soon."
That again was not directed towards you, but in fact towards Thirdpeppermint who started attacking as soon as she could. I am an adult as well, but follow societies rules and that is "when in someone else's house you don't crap all over the living room." This is the problem that I see in society now, a whole lot of self indulgent glory hounds who darn not work for anything, but in fact figure they deserve it because they are on this earth drawing breath. I never once said that you were a dog, never once mentioned anyone as a dog, and never mentioned anyone to "roll over and submit". Again this shows an aggressive nature that you yourself have accused Branik of having. But as you have taken me out of context I will expand upon what I meant. When you have a large group of people in one area you must keep a tight control on the situation so that if something does flare up it can be controlled. There is always one in a riot that will set other people, those that know better but for some reason still do it. The troublemakers must be removed for the sanity of those that want peace. You can not have a flaming war in a relaxed atmosphere and you can not have a relaxed atmosphere with a riot.
"Uh, in what reality does right = safe? Have you taken a look at the justice system these days? Just because we might be right doesn’t mean we wont be ripped to bits just the same."
Why bring the justice system into this, you are messing with a person's life and thinking that this is all fun and games. It is common fact that cyber bullying has jumped to the top of the infractions that are made against people, and this falls under one of the levels of cyber bullying. Like that of a high school situation you try and justify tearing one person down, attacking person, home, business, and friends. You state that so and so are what ever because they "hang" with so and so. Sound a little like high school to me. So and So is dateing so and so's Ex boyfriend so she is a such and such. Insert your own words where ever.
"What do numbers have to do with being right or wrong? You are comparing apples to oranges. We could outnumber you and be wrong, or we could be outnumbered by you and be right, or any combination. No correlation there."
When there is a large group of people believing one thing then they feel they are right, just because of the sheer numbers. This is what is happening within the very horse industry that surrounds us. 100's of thousands of people feel that slaughtering horses is wrong, and now there is 100's thousands of horse suffering for that statement. But they can face you with truth in there eyes and say that they are right. The greater one's following the more they feel vindicated in what it is that they think has wronged them. Its not Apples and Oranges...its not wrong or right...it is one's thought about another. My grandfather (god rest his soul) always said that you can't get along with everyone in this world, but it is how those that loved you remember you when you are gone that counts.
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"Yes, we are a group of people. No, we are not hiding in the corner. Bran knows about us, but we don’t make the blog private. She is more than welcome to come read and post, as is everyone else. We are simply a group of people who had an opinion and decided to stop causing massive flame wars on your turf, so that you can talk about YOUR issues over there, and started our own blog."
Your right she does know about you, but this was started in her blog that is not located anywhere but that of the game. There is a massive flame war still going on even thought you took it off her "turf". I had no intentions of ever posting here until my name showed up here...misspelled as it was...but it did show up here. There is alot more in that blog than just this in there, there is also a bunch of stuff on the up and coming new SHG, as well as some interesting things that was done with the coding, you focused mostly on the parts that were negative. I believe that this blog was started first and foremost by thirdpeppermint and not by you, you even had to have another post the emailed statement, other than take the responsibility of doing it yourself, almost a passing of the buck, if you believed it why did your fingers not type it our yourself?....so how can it be "your blog" why you can not even bring yourself to post originally, you do now but you did not feel vindicated enough to start that way.
rhinestone said...
Am I the only person who believes that having a blog centered on why something sucks is at least borderline obsessive behavior?
Rhinestone,
While I am on this blog occasionally, I do so with a free will that is neither obsessive nor compulsive. I am older than Branik and have been working for more than 30 years pretty consistently.
Personally, I do not particularly like the title of this blog. However, the comments are being made by people who believe that Branik was out of control and malicious with her name calling. If I was her older brother, I would tell her that more is accomplished without name calling using filthy words than with it. Yes, a lot of people in society has resorted to using vulgar language....it's everywhere on TV. Strangly, it's not very prevalent on radio....and I listen to a lot of different "Talk Radio" hosts.
However, it doesn't have to be that way. I am very uncomfortable when I go to the big city and hear those words coming out of anyone's mouth, male or female....but moreso a woman's. In my smallish town, you don't hear the f-word in every day conversations, much less the other vulgar words Branik spewed. You do hear an occasional "Oh Crap, HellsBells, damnit" etc....but even then it's not in everyday language. I guess I'm spoiled. My wife has never even said as much as "Oh crap" or anything similar. She has said that she has a better handle on language and doesn't like to lower herself to those people's level.
To the people that don't believe that the "customer is always right", I will tell you that I was raised with that and in all my jobs, that standard is adhered to. I will admit that society has changed in the last 10-15 yrs where they have copped an attitude that I would consider strange. The customer has taken to feeling that they are being shafted, screwed, stolen from, cheated, etc (these descriptions are all taken from customers comment forms). The last couple companies that I worked for have taken to screening Customer Service people so that we do not put in someone that "jumps" at the first sign of a beligerent customer. They are trained to go so far in their dealings and then go get a supervisor. Why do companies go to these lengths? Because, a satisfied customer will generally bring up the experience voluntarily and tell 1 person of the transaction. However, a dissatisfied customer will go out and tell 9 people (friends/family) right away of the company that made them mad. Then those 9 people will pass on their friend's experience as if it's their own.
So, why do we stay? We aren't, we are leaving. My daughter's Ranch has been sold. Mine has been closed and my wife's two are in the process of being given/sold to friends. She is more sentimental of her horses than I am. It is a fun and educational game....but I had issues with what I saw in the Commons as well as what we found in Branik's blog. I addressed that in another post, but not sure where it is posted or if it didn't get posted cause I was having problems figuring out how to work this. I'll look for it and if I don't find my post, I'll revisit why we are leaving the game later this evening or tomorrow....after I get some honey-do's done. ;)
Chewie
Hey, its not my fault that I decided to stop pushing this into Branik's face but others didn't follow suit. I made this blog before things went all crazy over there anyway.
Although, I feel that the flamewar would be there whether or not this blog was here or I ever said anything.
I couldn't have said this last statement better myself:
"When there is a large group of people believing one thing then they feel they are right, just because of the sheer numbers. This is what is happening within the very horse industry that surrounds us. 100's of thousands of people feel that slaughtering horses is wrong, and now there is 100's of thousands of horses suffering for that statement. But they can face you with truth in their eyes and say that they are right. The greater one's following the more they feel vindicated in what it is that they think has wronged them."
I'm sure Branik and her friends feel very vindicated because of their large following that has developed over the years.
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